Capture the flag...

[maygra]

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You know, there's something seriously wrong with people whose moral high ground consists of burying other people.


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Edit: There's a better metaphor/analogy out there for this -- make it a contest.

Comments

[technosage.livejournal.com]

*blinks* I feel like I'm missing something here.

[maygra.livejournal.com]

fandom -- or part of it thinking it's in the best interest of us all to decide what is and isn't postable or acceptable.

[leela-cat.livejournal.com]

I'm definitely missing something here. What's up?

[maygra.livejournal.com]

fandom -- or part of it thinking it's in the best interest of us all to decide what is and isn't postable or acceptable.

[shealynn88.livejournal.com]

Unfortunately--fandom, religion, politics--it doesn't matter where you are...someone, somewhere, is going to decide what's 'best.' Because we, as adults who have managed to make our own way in this world, are not capable of deciding what we should and shouldn't be exposed to. Or to *gasp* control that exposure OURSELVES. Sad but true.

[maygra.livejournal.com]

I think if you are going take responsible for the way someone else behaves against their will and better sense, you should be forced to become financially responsible for them.

It could be a morality tax. Tack on an extra 4% if you compromise their ethics at the same time.

[aerynvala.livejournal.com]

totally agreed

[maygra.livejournal.com]

I seriously do not get people who think this way.

[cereta.livejournal.com]

Sigh. Yes.

[maygra.livejournal.com]

Can I kick them out of fandom now? Or could we have two fandoms?

[alicettlg.livejournal.com]

Totally clueless here (but noting that your icon changed between the time I opened this post and the time I read it, whoa!) but yeah, as a general thing, that is bad. Unfortunately it happens more than it should, both in fandom and RL.

[maygra.livejournal.com]

Just fans willing to bar, ban, or otherwise try and force other fans into their ideal of what is right and wrong. And getting preemptively defensive.

[batdina.livejournal.com]

I have all sorts of inappropriate prednisone based aggression to spend. Who shall I swat?

[maygra.livejournal.com]

Seriously. I have the urge to make attitude-specific poppets and give them to my dogs for toys.


:::is cross:::

[nandini-niyati.livejournal.com]

Oh wow.. trying to decide on is or isn't acceptable or is or
isn't postable for an entire fandom? Really? Wow. I have trouble
just deciding what to eat for supper sometimes. (Uh, didn't we just
do this a while back? Or something like this? Kinda like this maybe?)

Bah. I haven't needed any help figuring out
what's best since my Grandma and Mama said "Honey, reading is
good for you, go for it" and handed me a Jennifer Wilde book.
(Oh. My. God. My eyes almost fell out.)I mean rape, incest, weird
lovemaking, being sold into slavery...I'm pretty sure if you can
name it, that book had it. (Do you think maybe people were less
fussy back in 1976?)

Anyhow, long/short, people are weird. And controlling. And
mostly they like controlling and being authoritative and my kid
just read a cool book about that and did a paper on it. And this just
proves that being anal retentive stretches to all reaches of life and not
just politics. :-)

[maygra.livejournal.com]

It is a recurring theme...I don't object to people objecting to things. However, when they object to things that a) aren't actually causing harm and b) they could avoid, I tend to lose all patience.

[strippedpink.livejournal.com]

Oh, man. I believe the word I am searching for is "ugh".

[maygra.livejournal.com]

it is a most excellent word.

also "feh".

[moveablehistory.livejournal.com]

This is why I make judicious use of my killfile. ://

[maygra.livejournal.com]

I miss my kill file...

I don't necessarily miss the newsreader though, I have to admit.

[gwyntastic.livejournal.com]

I know exactly what you are talking about. The second I heard about it, I was so angry. No one should be proud of telling other people how to live in fandom.

Honestly I know where that person is coming from. Not really sure I saw the need to run her out of town for what she did.

[maygra.livejournal.com]

I don't think I know who or what you are talking about. I'm not aware of anyone being run out of town. I know a few who have thrown up their hands at he whole of fandom and gaffiated but this is a current discussion among still active fen.

[morgandawn.livejournal.com]

"we had to destroy the village to save it?"

[maygra.livejournal.com]

also an excellent phrase...

But more, "I stand on my moral high ground with the bodies of my enemies buried beneath my feet."

[stormcloude]

I hope we can agree to disagree, assuming I know what you're speaking of.

[stormcloude]

Er, never mind. You know the saying about assuming and asses?

[destina.livejournal.com]

Oh god. WHAT NOW. *reaches breaking point*

[maygra.livejournal.com]

::Pets you:::

it's not a spazzy thing, hon. It's a cumulative thing.

[deejay.livejournal.com]

Sometimes, I actually think that ostriches may have the right idea....

Re:

[maygra.livejournal.com]

And they have fabulous outerwear!

[tenaciousmetoo.livejournal.com]

I guess I should be glad I missed whatever it was? Hmm. Glad you have your killfile now.

[maygra.livejournal.com]

::pets pretty killfile::

You missed nothing. I only get to catch up with LJ at the end of the day, ego, I tend to take in a lot of scattered things all at once and since by then I'm too tired to get into it en masses I'm reduced to kibbitzing from the sidelines.

[ratcreature]

I appear to have completely missed some kerfuffle again?

[maygra.livejournal.com]

No, really, you haven't (At least not that I'm aware of. More an encompassing commentary on several different conversations.

[sanj.livejournal.com]

*hug*

I got nothing, sweetie, other than "ignore the mean stupid people and come sit over here with me."

[maygra.livejournal.com]

::Cuddles the cuteness that is Sanj::

It's not that they are mean...it's that their attitude makes me feel mean...

and we all know how much I hate that.

[adelheide.livejournal.com]

It sounds like I missed wank, which is really a yay on my part.

Generally speaking, there are always a group of people who think, for whatever reason, they are in some position to make decisions for everyone else. Like the parents who throw hissy fits about "inappropriate" programing during "family hour". Yes, well, if you don't want your kids to see it, don't let them see it. This is called being a parent. This is why the V chip was invented.

But even then, it's not enough to have the means. They just want to ban it all together. Because somehow the world is safe if something they personally find distasteful is kept from everyone. These people certainly aren't limited to fandom, but it's especially disheartening when they are fans. Because fandom is all about accepting the unacceptable.

[maygra.livejournal.com]

Seriously not wank unless by wank you mean differences of opinion expressed or unexpressed in discussion or not. Mind you, there could be wank except that I don't actually have the energy to culture the petrie dish...

But yes, your second para actually hits the crux of the matter.

Last time I checked -- morality was standards we're meant to hold ourselves to. Ethics is morality by committee, and trying to get people to stop doing something you don't approve of when what you're doing harms no one was called...

...harrassment.